S02E01: Kryten

[14:55] xtrebe
Season 2, Episode 1

[14:55] xtrebe
Kryten

[14:56] ZeroCool
Why is Rimmer learning Spanish if there are no humans?

[14:56] ZeroCool
Why can't Holly just program him to know Spanish?

[14:56] xtrebe
Wait, it's Esperanto.

[14:56] xtrebe
Which is even more useless.

[14:56] ZeroCool
haha

[14:57] xtrebe
Everything he does is pointless.

[14:57] ZeroCool
that is true

[14:57] ZeroCool
I noticed that season 1 simply had Lister mocking aliens the entire season and it carries over into this season yet the rest of the series deals with a ton of aliens

[14:58] xtrebe
Yeah

[14:58] xtrebe
I wonder at what point they decided to make Kryten permanent.

[14:59] ZeroCool
when they decided to redo his makeup entirely

[14:59] ZeroCool
and outfit

[14:59] xtrebe
Also, while the Kryten in this episode has his moments, I'm very glad he didn't end up being the real Kryten.

[14:59] ZeroCool
his shiny suit was pimp

[14:59] xtrebe
ha ha

[14:59] xtrebe
Yeah, his butler outfit.

[14:59] ZeroCool
made out of a garbage bag

[14:59] xtrebe
Or are you referring to Kat's space suit?

[14:59] xtrebe
Which was also shining.

[14:59] ZeroCool
No but that was a different point

[14:59] xtrebe
*shiny

[14:59] ZeroCool
was the suit functional? a day and a half and an "idiot" made it? impressive

[15:00] xtrebe
ha ha

[15:00] xtrebe
Maybe he just glued glitter and tin foil to a real space suit.

[15:00] xtrebe
Although, it never shows them actually need a space suit

[15:00] xtrebe
they go from ship to ship to ship and are never outside

[15:00] xtrebe
not that I remember

[15:00] ZeroCool
The outer door was open when he boarded

[15:00] ZeroCool
which made no sense

[15:00] xtrebe
Ah

[15:01] xtrebe
So, my favorite joke of the episode.

[15:01] xtrebe
Kryten comes back, Lister tells them their dead.

[15:01] ZeroCool
Yup, mine as well

[15:01] xtrebe
Kryten says "I was only way 2 minutes!"

[15:01] ZeroCool
one of the best of the season and series so far

[15:01] xtrebe
Yeah, it was solid.

[15:01] ZeroCool
I also liked Lister talking up Rimmer to the skeletons

[15:01] xtrebe
Ha ha ha, yeah, that was good

[15:01] xtrebe
That whole scene with the skeletons was great.

[15:02] ZeroCool
It really was

[15:02] ZeroCool
a good start to Season 2

[15:02] ZeroCool
is that a new laughtrack or a studio audience? very distracting

[15:02] xtrebe
Oh, and Lister getting all dressed up to visit.

[15:02] xtrebe
Spray painting his buttock

[15:02] xtrebe
That was also great.

[15:02] xtrebe
As for the audience.

[15:02] xtrebe
I think I remember hearing that for season 1 they just got random drunks from nearby pubs to be in the audience.

[15:03] xtrebe
This is probably a "real" fake audience.

[15:03] ZeroCool
it was noticeably different

[15:04] ZeroCool
Kryten struggles to fight his programming for his entire existence yet manages to rebel against Rimmer in a day

[15:04] xtrebe
Ha ha

[15:04] xtrebe
It was beginner's luck.

[15:09] xtrebe
I'd say it got slightly less funny after the ship scene.

[15:09] ZeroCool
that is true

[15:09] xtrebe
So, the first 2/3rd were excellent, last 1/3rd a bit weaker

[15:09] xtrebe
though not bad

[15:10] ZeroCool
A promising start to the season

S01E06: Me^2

[14:38] ZeroCool
Red Dwarf Season 1 Episode 6

[14:38] xtrebe
Me^2

[14:39] ZeroCool
There ya go

[14:39] ZeroCool
The pinnacle of them discovering them need more cast members

[14:39] xtrebe
Ha ha

[14:39] xtrebe
Yeah

[14:39] ZeroCool
er they

[14:39] ZeroCool
More highlights of Rimmer acting like Holly is doing stuff to him

[14:42] xtrebe
Yes

[14:42] xtrebe
I will say that he has some incredible lines in this one.

[14:43] xtrebe
Red Dwarf is the master at 1-liners, and apparently that was the case even from Season 1.

[14:43] xtrebe
"Stop your foul whining you filthy piece of distended rectum!"

[14:43] xtrebe
Which is hilarious.

[14:43] xtrebe
And it's also his 2nd rectum quote of the season.

[14:44] xtrebe
Oh wait, no, the next rectum quote comes in Season 2.

[14:44] xtrebe
No, it was season 1

[14:44] ZeroCool
He is able to showcase his previously mentioned (in another chat) ability to go from calm to pissed off to calm on a dime

[14:44] xtrebe
"Of course you're tense you rectum-faced pygmy."

[14:45] xtrebe
Yes, he does a rather convincing portrayal of violent mood swings.

[14:46] ZeroCool
The is a poorly designed mini cinema if the chairs are made to block each other's view

[14:46] ZeroCool
of a 1930's cartoon

[14:46] xtrebe
Yeah, not exactly cutting edge.

[14:49] ZeroCool
I did enjoy the coldness of deleting the newer Rimmer

[14:49] ZeroCool
the complete lack of emotion considering he essentially was killing that Rimmer

[14:49] xtrebe
Yeah, how casually they just murdered someone.

[14:50] ZeroCool
I laughed several times

[14:50] xtrebe
The last line, though, that was a pretty great ending to the episode.

[14:50] xtrebe
They do a great job of making the characters dishonest, scheming, and unpleasant.

[14:50] ZeroCool
At one point in the episode Lister is a blithering idiot, at other times he is pretty smart. An interesting line they walk with his character

[14:50] ZeroCool
Souper

[14:51] xtrebe
yeah, they kind of make him whatever they need at the moment

[14:51] xtrebe
A lot like Cartman in South Park, actually.

[14:51] ZeroCool
Yeah. He can't pass the chef's exam but he can do anything else

[14:52] ZeroCool
I enjoyed Rimmer pushing himself to succeed and then hating himself for it. I always set goals that I know I will fail at but I am able to lie to myself about it. Having the other Rimmer just made it so he couldnt excuse it away

[14:52] xtrebe
Yeah.

[14:52] xtrebe
It also is an interesting look at the concept of lying to yourself.

[14:53] xtrebe
They of course know just how lazy and incompetent they are.

[14:53] xtrebe
Yet they supposedly push each other, which in reality they are just pretending to be more than they are.

[14:53] ZeroCool
Painting the wall different shades of Gray simply relayed how stupid certain things are that we do because we are told they are important when any logical person can see how pointless and idiotic they are. I might be looking too deeply into that gag though

[14:54] ZeroCool
a lie contest between the Rimmers, seeing who would crack first

[14:54] ZeroCool
Interestingly it was the original Rimmer. Like being around longer made him even worse at lying to himself

[14:59] xtrebe
ha ha, yeah, interesting point

[15:01] ZeroCool
Or simply that he had been around Rimmer long enough that he could easily stomach his own lies but once he essentially was dealing with himself, he couldnt take it

[15:01] ZeroCool
This is like a friggin college course here

[15:01] xtrebe
There's a lot of depth to Red Dwarf.

[15:01] ZeroCool
Yes, I am sure it is fully intended

[15:01] ZeroCool
and not at all just us making shit up

[15:01] xtrebe
ha ha, well, at least some of it is

[15:02] ZeroCool
That concludes my thoughts on the last episode of season 1. Solid start, looking forward to the improvements made in season 2

[15:02] xtrebe
Indeed