Tuesday, May 26, 2015

S01E05: Confidence and Paranoia

[10:23] ZeroCool
ZeroCool Hello fellow Dwarfian

[10:29] xtrebe
Good day, sir

[10:30] xtrebe
Did you watch the rest of Season 1, or just Confidence and Paranoia?

[10:30] ZeroCool
ZeroCool Watching the last episode now

[10:31] ZeroCool
ZeroCool but I took notes on Confidence and Paranoia

[10:31] xtrebe
sweet

[10:31] xtrebe
I'll always love Confidence & Paranoia because of Craig Ferguson

[10:32] xtrebe
I remember when I first discovered he was the same guy as the talk show Craig Ferguson

[10:32] xtrebe
it blew my mind

[10:32] ZeroCool
ZeroCool I think we talk about Craig Ferguson every few years simply because of that episode

[10:32] ZeroCool
ZeroCool He aged to a better look than he maintained in his younger years

[10:32] xtrebe
Yeah

[10:33] xtrebe
Well, it's also encouraging to see a fat guy lose weight and actually keep it off

[10:33] ZeroCool
ZeroCool that is true

[10:33] ZeroCool
ZeroCool and he turned less orange as he got older

[10:33] ZeroCool
ZeroCool One of my prized possessions in life would be an autographed Craig Ferguson photo from that episode. I think I am going to write him and request one

[10:34] xtrebe
Oh man, that would be absolutely amazing

[10:34] xtrebe
better than my Bruce Campbell pic, for sure

[10:34] ZeroCool
ZeroCool I thought the episode featured some of Rimmer's best acting. Holly brush my teeth, Holly give me a shave. Exercises for the dead? Top notch

[10:34] xtrebe
Especially if he said anything more than "Hi"

[10:34] ZeroCool
ZeroCool haha, we blew that one

[10:34] ZeroCool
ZeroCool but atleast we are in the picture with him

[10:34] xtrebe
ha ha, yeah

[10:34] xtrebe
a spazzy, awkward "action!" pose

[10:35] ZeroCool
ZeroCool I blame that lack of a gold suit

[10:35] xtrebe
Yeah, we couldn't compete

[10:35] ZeroCool
ZeroCool Now we have drifted away from a conversation anyone else could follow

[10:35] xtrebe
That's okay

[10:35] xtrebe
So, yes, acting

[10:35] ZeroCool
ZeroCool Did you notice that the medical skutters are the same basic thing as Iron Man's skutters? Red Dwarf broke barriers

[10:35] xtrebe
There are Iron Man skutters?

[10:36] ZeroCool
ZeroCool Yeah,he has his little assistant robots that are just bigger versions of skutters

[10:36] xtrebe
Oh, I see

[10:36] ZeroCool
ZeroCool Have you not watched Iron Man lately?

[10:36] xtrebe
I have, I just forgot about his helper robots

[10:37] xtrebe
The Iron Man robots seem slightly more effective

[10:37] xtrebe
Since they can move faster than 2 mph

[10:37] ZeroCool
ZeroCool yes, but the concept similarities surprised me

[10:37] xtrebe
yeah

[10:37] ZeroCool
ZeroCool granted it was 2am so I may have been stretching a bit

[10:38] ZeroCool
ZeroCool Along the skutters lines, the "Stabhim" name gag stuck out as the best part of the episode

[10:38] ZeroCool
ZeroCool the tone changed so quickly

[10:38] ZeroCool
ZeroCool Rimmer was masterful at going from frantic to calm in an instant. He really nails that in this series

[10:39] xtrebe
Ha ha, yeah, Chris Barrie definitely mastered the art of bipolar

[10:39] ZeroCool
ZeroCool whoah whoah whoah, dont separate the actor from the character

[10:39] xtrebe
wait, weren't we talking about acting?

[10:40] xtrebe
I meant acting like he's bipolar

[10:40] ZeroCool
ZeroCool Yes, but I prefer to not think of him as a real person

[10:40] ZeroCool
ZeroCool I am not being consistent in my analysis, I know

[10:40] ZeroCool
ZeroCool I just couldnt remember his actual name, easier to refer to him by his character

[10:40] xtrebe
ha ha

[10:41] xtrebe
Yes

[10:41] xtrebe
Man, did you ever watch any of the episodes with the cast commentary?

[10:41] xtrebe
Holy crap, talk about destroying the illusion

[10:41] ZeroCool
ZeroCool I havent yet

[10:41] xtrebe
They couldn't even remember the episodes they were watching

[10:41] xtrebe
it was crazy

[10:41] xtrebe
I know their work 100x better than they do

[10:41] xtrebe
in Red Dwarf, at least

[10:41] xtrebe
It was a weird sensation

[10:41] ZeroCool
ZeroCool Wasnt it 15 years after the fact though?

[10:41] xtrebe
but they did have lots of interesting trivia

[10:42] xtrebe
I guess so

[10:42] xtrebe
The DVDs came out mid 2000s

[10:42] ZeroCool
ZeroCool It doesnt seem like they did a lot of takes so I can see why they may forget a lot

[10:42] xtrebe
I mostly watch the files off my server, but the DVDs were pretty awesome

[10:42] xtrebe
ha ha ha, yeah

[10:43] xtrebe
There are a couple of scenes, not in this episode, but in others where they accidentally look straight at the camera

[10:43] xtrebe
It's awesome

[10:43] xtrebe
Kat in particular does it

[10:43] ZeroCool
ZeroCool haha, I will have to look for that

[10:43] ZeroCool
ZeroCool Kat's character is the most puzzling of all of them

[10:43] ZeroCool
ZeroCool which is saying something

[10:43] ZeroCool
ZeroCool Where did his clothing come from?

[10:43] xtrebe
:)

[10:43] xtrebe
yeah

[10:44] ZeroCool
ZeroCool I have to catch myself from wandering too deeply down that rabbit hole

[10:44] ZeroCool
ZeroCool since the entire series would fall apart within 5 minutes of poking at it from a science point of view

[10:44] ZeroCool
ZeroCool Even from someone as unscientific as myself

[10:45] ZeroCool
ZeroCool The lack of a budget definetely made the show more enjoyable

[10:45] ZeroCool
ZeroCool The space suits were memorable

[10:45] ZeroCool
ZeroCool They looked like they could come off with a simple zipper pull

[10:45] ZeroCool
ZeroCool the helment literally has a tube running into it with air

[10:45] xtrebe
Ha, yeah

[10:45] xtrebe
They blew the budget on the fish

[10:46] ZeroCool
ZeroCool and you could remove the helmet with zero safety preventions

[10:46] ZeroCool
ZeroCool ha, yeah. Fish can be expensive

[10:46] xtrebe
as was demonstrated by Craig Ferguson

[10:46] ZeroCool
ZeroCool Lister's Slo Mo jump while outside was a nice nod to the action shots made popular in the 80's

[10:47] ZeroCool
ZeroCool Slo Mo always indicates an awesome physical move that you would miss if it went at normal speed

[10:47] ZeroCool
ZeroCool or at least you wouldnt appreciate how awesome it was

[10:47] xtrebe
Yeah, he has the physical charisma to pull it off

[10:47] xtrebe
wait

[10:48] ZeroCool
ZeroCool Is that an actual "wait" or a sarcastic "wait" meaning the complete opposite? Guessing the latter

[10:48] xtrebe
yes

[10:48] xtrebe
Because he's lumpy

[10:48] ZeroCool
ZeroCool That he is

[10:49] ZeroCool
ZeroCool Overall, I enjoyed aspects of that episode but it just gets me more excited to watch the better episodes of later seasons

[10:49] xtrebe
Yeah

[10:50] xtrebe
To me it shows that it's hard to make an exciting show with only 3 characters

[10:50] xtrebe
This one felt more lively because they had 2 guest characters.

[10:50] xtrebe
It makes sense that they needed to add Kryten later on.

[10:50] ZeroCool
ZeroCool That was probably the biggested mistake of the series, underestimating the need for more people to make it watchable